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UnDisciplined: What do we learn from aging?

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When Ashton Applewhite published This Chair Rocks: A Manifesto Against Ageism, she set out to dismantle a set of cultural myths: that growing older is inherently miserable, that decline is inevitable, and that worth diminishes with age. The book helped catalyze a global conversation about ageism and offered a radically different way to understand later life — as complex, varied, and full of possibility.

Ten years later, Applewhite returns to that work with something only time can provide: lived experience inside the very argument she made. In this conversation, she reflects on how a decade of aging, activism, and adaptation has deepened her understanding of identity, independence, disability, and grace — and why rejecting shame, embracing interdependence, and telling more honest stories about our changing bodies may be the most powerful tools we have for aging well.

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Matthew LaPlante has reported on ritual infanticide in Northern Africa, insurgent warfare in the Middle East, the legacy of genocide in Southeast Asia, and gang violence in Central America. But a few years back, something occurred to him: Maybe the news doesn't have to be so brutally depressing all the time. These days, he balances his continuing work on more heartbreaking subjects with his work on UnDisciplined — Utah Public Radio's weekly program on science and discovery.